Tansy Harcourt

The only thing I would... Not that I have a desire to defend any law firm, but I don't know what the terms of their investigation actually was.

So, for instance, if they were...

only told to look at a very kind of narrow pathway, perhaps they couldn't see what was there to be seen.

Or if they had a broad scope and found nothing, then there's got to be some questions asked of those law firms too.

Well, I mean, you've just hit the nail on the head.

It's very concerning.

I mean, particularly when it comes to the auditors, like if you look at the big four firms, the consultants are a bit more like investment bankers and they can be kind of some smooth talkers and, you know, maybe they are sometimes more fast and loose than they should be, but you don't expect that

from your auditing division.

Those guys are supposed to be independent.

They shouldn't be accepting freebies to see Taylor Swift and things like that that we've talked about at The Australian.

They should be completely standing alone.

They're almost a watchdog.

Well, they are really a market watchdog.

So to find out that they've been taking these steps and misusing these documents, it's very alarming.

And what do you think this says about KPMG?

Well, that's exactly right.

And I mean, every day when I look at my emails, I've got more and more information coming in about other whistleblowers and other incidents that have occurred at KPMG that have been kind of brushed under the rug.

And I think that the firm really does need to

have a look at its culture.

And that can be such a kind of overused word, but clearly there is a problem.