Tansy Harcourt

I will say that Westpac had made sure that Peter Nash wasn't on there.

There was a special subcommittee for this.

So he didn't have anything to do with the choosing of KPMG as the auditor.

But it really is a bit of a kind of...

When you look at the pub test question that we all love in Australia, it probably doesn't pass it.

I had a piece in the paper this morning about a company called Capgemini, which is trying to buy KPMG's defence unit.

Yes, yes.

I mean, that's an interesting one.

KPMG rebuffed their $1 offer, but the view is that they'll be back because that

That KPMG defence team, at one point, that was the biggest earner for KPMG in Australia.

And the money that they were earning from defence had fallen off a cliff as a result of the big PwC scandal.

all of the government contractors were told to kind of rein in their spending with the big four.

So it had already dramatically dropped.

And now that this has happened, those defence consultants are staring down the barrel of a whole lot of nothing.

So they quite naturally would like to find a new home.

And if they don't find a new home quickly, they will face another set of problems because Senator Deb O'Neill, who has been

So integral to shining a light on the consulting industry has now just taken over the parliamentary joint committee that's just been set up a couple of weeks ago looking at defence.

Right.

So I think.

I don't think that she really loves the way KPMG has behaved over this.