Tansy Harcourt

He loves a tariff.

Not really.

I mean, this one's right back to you, Carrington.

Has there been, as far as I know, there hasn't been any specific examples he's given.

What are you hearing?

Well, what do you think then about the way, I mean, it's very hard to predict Donald Trump, obviously, but how do you feel about the way the Australian government has handled this?

And it's obviously just been announced, but what do you think about the way they're trying to tackle Trump on things like this?

No.

They even rolled out the king.

Thanks, Carrington.

A pleasure.

Well, a little bit like the PwC scandal of a few years earlier, this one was actually exposed by Senator Deb O'Neill, who sits on the Parliamentary Joint Committee.

And this time it was exposed by her airing allegations under parliamentary privilege of a whistleblower who had actually first come forward to KPMG two years earlier.

And what did this whistleblower allege was happening at KPMG?

It has a lot of allegations, but the main ones were about senior auditors actually using confidential data of their own clients and using that data to then try and win work from other clients or potential clients.

It does.

And I think that that's one of the areas that KPMG is probably deeply concerned about because the government, as I'm sure you know, is one of the biggest clients or in fact is the biggest clients of the big four auditing and accounting firms.

So it's a really big deal.

And we have had Katie Gallagher come out this morning and say she's deeply concerned.

I think there is going to be more statements to that effect.