Tanya Mosley

Is that to the detriment of us, though? You know, I know that you probably have a lot of elders, at least I do, who talk about how there is no leader. There is no person, no guiding force in this moment.

No, say it, please.

No, say it, please.

No, say it, please.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are sociologist and writer Tressie McMillan Cottom and scholar and writer Eddie Glaude. We are reflecting on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's legacy on this holiday, which is also Inauguration Day. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are sociologist and writer Tressie McMillan Cottom and scholar and writer Eddie Glaude. We are reflecting on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's legacy on this holiday, which is also Inauguration Day. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are sociologist and writer Tressie McMillan Cottom and scholar and writer Eddie Glaude. We are reflecting on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's legacy on this holiday, which is also Inauguration Day. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

You know, I want to talk a little bit about some of what Dr. King was working on in his last days that come back to this economic angst that we were talking about. So as you all both know, he was working on the Poor People's Campaign, which was focused on economic justice for everyone.

You know, I want to talk a little bit about some of what Dr. King was working on in his last days that come back to this economic angst that we were talking about. So as you all both know, he was working on the Poor People's Campaign, which was focused on economic justice for everyone.

You know, I want to talk a little bit about some of what Dr. King was working on in his last days that come back to this economic angst that we were talking about. So as you all both know, he was working on the Poor People's Campaign, which was focused on economic justice for everyone.

And I was thinking about this in the context of today because King desired to address what he called the triple evils, which was racism and militarism and and poverty. Eddie, how are you thinking about those three in the context of today?

And I was thinking about this in the context of today because King desired to address what he called the triple evils, which was racism and militarism and and poverty. Eddie, how are you thinking about those three in the context of today?

And I was thinking about this in the context of today because King desired to address what he called the triple evils, which was racism and militarism and and poverty. Eddie, how are you thinking about those three in the context of today?

Tressie, you say that we've retrenched into nationalist economics. I thought that was just like an interesting term.

Tressie, you say that we've retrenched into nationalist economics. I thought that was just like an interesting term.

Tressie, you say that we've retrenched into nationalist economics. I thought that was just like an interesting term.

Could either of you all see something like a poor people's campaign? I mean, I know it fell short of its immediate goals. King was assassinated. I mean, but there are things that came out of that that we still benefit from today. Expansion of social welfare programs. more low-income housing, and at a time where we need that now more than ever?

Could either of you all see something like a poor people's campaign? I mean, I know it fell short of its immediate goals. King was assassinated. I mean, but there are things that came out of that that we still benefit from today. Expansion of social welfare programs. more low-income housing, and at a time where we need that now more than ever?

Could either of you all see something like a poor people's campaign? I mean, I know it fell short of its immediate goals. King was assassinated. I mean, but there are things that came out of that that we still benefit from today. Expansion of social welfare programs. more low-income housing, and at a time where we need that now more than ever?

Like, what would be a unifying force to help us all understand the needs for things like this? Because we see clearly the data shows us, but there is a splinter in our ideas of how to make those things happen and the government's role in it.