Tanya Mosley

Like, what would be a unifying force to help us all understand the needs for things like this? Because we see clearly the data shows us, but there is a splinter in our ideas of how to make those things happen and the government's role in it.

Like, what would be a unifying force to help us all understand the needs for things like this? Because we see clearly the data shows us, but there is a splinter in our ideas of how to make those things happen and the government's role in it.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are sociologist and writer Tressie McMillan Cottom and scholar and writer Eddie Glaude. We are reflecting on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's legacy on this holiday, which is also Inauguration Day. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are sociologist and writer Tressie McMillan Cottom and scholar and writer Eddie Glaude. We are reflecting on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's legacy on this holiday, which is also Inauguration Day. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guests are sociologist and writer Tressie McMillan Cottom and scholar and writer Eddie Glaude. We are reflecting on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 's legacy on this holiday, which is also Inauguration Day. We'll continue our conversation after a short break. This is Fresh Air.

Tressie, you actually chose a clip from Dr. King's 1966 speech at Wesleyan University that speaks to the morality issue. Let's listen.

Tressie, you actually chose a clip from Dr. King's 1966 speech at Wesleyan University that speaks to the morality issue. Let's listen.

Tressie, you actually chose a clip from Dr. King's 1966 speech at Wesleyan University that speaks to the morality issue. Let's listen.

That was Dr. King at Wesleyan University in 1966. You chuckle, Eddie.

That was Dr. King at Wesleyan University in 1966. You chuckle, Eddie.

That was Dr. King at Wesleyan University in 1966. You chuckle, Eddie.

You know, I initially wanted to end our conversation with an excerpt from Dr. King's I Have a Dream speech, but I think a speech you selected, Eddie, might be more fitting. This is King in March of 1968, one month before he was assassinated. Let's listen.

You know, I initially wanted to end our conversation with an excerpt from Dr. King's I Have a Dream speech, but I think a speech you selected, Eddie, might be more fitting. This is King in March of 1968, one month before he was assassinated. Let's listen.

You know, I initially wanted to end our conversation with an excerpt from Dr. King's I Have a Dream speech, but I think a speech you selected, Eddie, might be more fitting. This is King in March of 1968, one month before he was assassinated. Let's listen.

Eddie, tell us why you chose this clip.

Eddie, tell us why you chose this clip.

Eddie, tell us why you chose this clip.

Tressie McMillan Cottom and Eddie Glaude, thank you so much for this conversation.

Tressie McMillan Cottom and Eddie Glaude, thank you so much for this conversation.

Tressie McMillan Cottom and Eddie Glaude, thank you so much for this conversation.