Tanya Mosley

Well, our guest today to talk about all of this has been Keyes. He's the Rowan Family Foundation Professor of Real Estate and Finance at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. He is also a research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research. And Ben Keyes, welcome to Fresh Air.

Well, our guest today to talk about all of this has been Keyes. He's the Rowan Family Foundation Professor of Real Estate and Finance at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. He is also a research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research. And Ben Keyes, welcome to Fresh Air.

You know, Ben, one of the more frustrating issues right now is that there just isn't enough affordable housing. And from my understanding, like so much of this current housing crisis, this can be traced back to the financial crisis of 2008. It's like a snowball effect.

You know, Ben, one of the more frustrating issues right now is that there just isn't enough affordable housing. And from my understanding, like so much of this current housing crisis, this can be traced back to the financial crisis of 2008. It's like a snowball effect.

You know, Ben, one of the more frustrating issues right now is that there just isn't enough affordable housing. And from my understanding, like so much of this current housing crisis, this can be traced back to the financial crisis of 2008. It's like a snowball effect.

Can you delve a little bit deeper into that? Because why 17 years later, if demand is high, people are working, they're looking for places to live, what are some of the factors that continue to keep home builders from just building more housing?

Can you delve a little bit deeper into that? Because why 17 years later, if demand is high, people are working, they're looking for places to live, what are some of the factors that continue to keep home builders from just building more housing?

Can you delve a little bit deeper into that? Because why 17 years later, if demand is high, people are working, they're looking for places to live, what are some of the factors that continue to keep home builders from just building more housing?

You know, President-elect Trump, he's been talking about some of the ways he plans to help remedy this crisis. And one of them is proposing tariffs on imports, which include construction materials. How could that impact housing costs as it relates, I guess, to the price of building materials?

You know, President-elect Trump, he's been talking about some of the ways he plans to help remedy this crisis. And one of them is proposing tariffs on imports, which include construction materials. How could that impact housing costs as it relates, I guess, to the price of building materials?

You know, President-elect Trump, he's been talking about some of the ways he plans to help remedy this crisis. And one of them is proposing tariffs on imports, which include construction materials. How could that impact housing costs as it relates, I guess, to the price of building materials?

Ben, one of the more controversial ideas that Trump has spoken about is how he plans to deport 11 million or so undocumented immigrants and how that will free up housing. Is there a link between the undocumented and housing affordability besides it being a numbers game?

Ben, one of the more controversial ideas that Trump has spoken about is how he plans to deport 11 million or so undocumented immigrants and how that will free up housing. Is there a link between the undocumented and housing affordability besides it being a numbers game?

Ben, one of the more controversial ideas that Trump has spoken about is how he plans to deport 11 million or so undocumented immigrants and how that will free up housing. Is there a link between the undocumented and housing affordability besides it being a numbers game?

One of the other things that President-elect Trump has talked about is opening swaths of federal land for large-scale housing construction. And he's calling these areas freedom cities. The Biden administration was doing sort of an impact or research study on this. And Kamala Harris also talked about this as well in generalities.

One of the other things that President-elect Trump has talked about is opening swaths of federal land for large-scale housing construction. And he's calling these areas freedom cities. The Biden administration was doing sort of an impact or research study on this. And Kamala Harris also talked about this as well in generalities.

One of the other things that President-elect Trump has talked about is opening swaths of federal land for large-scale housing construction. And he's calling these areas freedom cities. The Biden administration was doing sort of an impact or research study on this. And Kamala Harris also talked about this as well in generalities.

So I just want to get to the bottom of like, is there some value there in looking at federal land as a potential solution? Maybe not in the way of building new cities on federal land, but is there a way to use that land to help offset some of the challenges that we're seeing?

So I just want to get to the bottom of like, is there some value there in looking at federal land as a potential solution? Maybe not in the way of building new cities on federal land, but is there a way to use that land to help offset some of the challenges that we're seeing?

So I just want to get to the bottom of like, is there some value there in looking at federal land as a potential solution? Maybe not in the way of building new cities on federal land, but is there a way to use that land to help offset some of the challenges that we're seeing?