Tanya Mosley

I mean, and we all eat.

But how do you maintain that joy while knowing everything that you know?

You have said something pretty astounding that's kind of been staying with me.

I've heard you say this a couple of times, that our food system is unfixable without a revolution.

What would that revolution look like?

I mean, you know, it seems so daunting when you say all of those things, especially at this moment in the political climate that we're in at this time.

And I just wonder, what do you tell people on an individual level as they think about, well, what are the things that I can do to actually be a part of a bigger revolution to fix our food systems?

Marian Nestle, it's been a pleasure to talk with you.

Thank you so much.

Marian Nestle is the author of What to Eat Now.

Coming up, our film critic Justin Chang reviews the new film Sentimental Value.

This is Fresh Air.

This is Fresh Air.

Four years after their Oscar-nominated comedy, The Worst Person in the World, the Danish-born Norwegian director Joakim Trier and actor Renate Reitsveig are together on a new drama, Sentimental Value.

The movie, which also features Stellan Skarsgård and Elle Fanning, won the Grand Prix at this year's Cannes Film Festival and will represent Norway in this year's Oscar race for Best International Feature.

Our film critic Justin Chang has this review.

The more that I study her, the more lost I feel trying to be her.

It's like her sadness is, it's such an overwhelming part of her.

Justin Chang is a film critic for The New Yorker.

Tomorrow on Fresh Air, a profile of Laura Loomer, the MAGA conspiracy theorist who describes herself as President Trump's chief loyalty enforcer.