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Nick Offerman gets an emotional arc

27 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the premise of Nick Offerman's new series 'Margo's Got Money Troubles'?

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And thanks.

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24.635 - 45.377 Terry Gross

This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross. Our guest is actor, writer, and woodworker Nick Offerman. He's best known for his role in Parks and Recreation and for his Emmy Award-winning role in the show The Last of Us. His new series, Margot's Got Money Troubles, is based on the book of the same name. He spoke with Fresh Air's Anne-Marie Baldonado.

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46.015 - 63.94 Anne-Marie Baldonado

The new Apple TV series, Margo's Got Money Troubles, is about Margo, a bright college freshman who ill-advisedly has an affair with her English professor. She ends up getting pregnant and decides to have and keep the baby. Margot herself was raised by a single mom.

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Chapter 2: How did Nick Offerman prepare for his role as a former professional wrestler?

64.281 - 89.48 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Her dad, Jinx, played by Nick Offerman, was a popular professional wrestler when she was born and has been pretty absent from her life. Now, his career is in the past, and his injuries have caused him chronic pain. He turns to painkillers, then heroin, and then rehab. He's there when he hears about Margot and decides to come back into her life after years of being away.

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89.52 - 96.89 Anne-Marie Baldonado

In this scene, he comes to Margot's door and meets the baby for the first time. Margot is played by Elle Fanning.

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You're a grandpa. Everyone says he's beautiful, so I'm going with that.

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107.864 - 113.604 Nick Offerman

He's the most beautiful. Oh, I brought you a check.

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Chapter 3: What challenges did Nick Offerman face while portraying Jinx's emotional journey?

114.745 - 121.615 Nick Offerman

Sold an old bike. It's not much, but I'm sorry I wasn't able to call you back.

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Where are you staying?

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126.281 - 136.575 Nick Offerman

Um, well, for tonight I gotta figure, and then starting tomorrow, I guess I gotta figure that too. Can I hold him?

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He's a little fussy.

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151.771 - 152.675 Nick Offerman

Hey, little man.

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He likes you.

166.148 - 180.087 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Jinx moves in with Margo, the baby, and Margo's roommate, creating an unconventional family unit. Jinx is there for Margo in a way he wasn't in the past, but the pain and struggle of addiction persist.

Chapter 4: What insights does Nick Offerman share about addiction in his character's story?

181.009 - 205.077 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Nick Offerman played the beloved character Ron Swanson in the comedy series Parks and Recreation. He won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Guest Actor and in a drama series for his role in a heartbreaking episode of the series The Last of Us. In addition to Margo's Got Money Troubles, he stars in the Netflix show Death by Lightning. Nick Offerman, welcome back to Fresh Air.

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206.078 - 207.64 Nick Offerman

Thank you so much for having me.

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208.36 - 215.848 Anne-Marie Baldonado

This series is great and you're so good in it. You said that playing this role really scared you. What was so scary about it?

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216.638 - 220.606 Nick Offerman

Well, I suppose I've had a really lucky career.

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Chapter 5: How does Nick Offerman compare his roles in 'Parks and Recreation' and 'The Last of Us'?

220.686 - 252.017 Nick Offerman

I've gotten to work a lot, which for an actor, just getting jobs is wild. The numbers are so stacked against you. And with the good fortune of getting to work consistently, I also fell into a a certain category of like dependable supporting actor, you know, journeyman, bus driver slash plumber, you know, slash guy manning the grill.

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252.978 - 266.153 Nick Offerman

And so one thing I haven't been called on to do a lot of is have like a complicated emotional relationship or have an inner emotional arc that we want the audience to care about.

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266.133 - 293.423 Nick Offerman

And so that part of the show, not only having two of those relationships with Al Fanning and with Michelle Pfeiffer, not only having that for the first time kind of, but to have them with these like world-class Mount Rushmore, like A-list actresses, you know, it was like, well, I wanted a challenge. Here you go, buddy.

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294.365 - 310.106 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Well, I've read when you're preparing for a role, you think a lot about facial hair, maybe all of your hair, but facial hair in particular. And I imagine, too, you think a lot about physicality, like how would this character carry himself? What does he look like physically?

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Chapter 6: What advice does Nick Offerman give to aspiring woodworkers?

310.246 - 318.978 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Can you talk about what you thought about in terms of your look when you were playing Jinx, who was, you know, had been a wrestler, a little past his prime?

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318.998 - 347.589 Nick Offerman

I love transforming things. One thing I love about my job is sinking into the material deeply enough that sometimes the audience will say, oh, I didn't realize that's the guy from the other thing. And that's sort of my favorite compliment to get if I get one. And so because I'm blessed with a healthy crop of facial hair and hair on my head, that's kind of just my jumping off point.

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347.609 - 375.163 Nick Offerman

Like, okay, which version of Lon Chaney will I bring next? to bat in this game. And then also I worked with a great trainer named Grant Roberts to make my body look more like a former pro wrestler. And then had the incredible opportunity to train with Chavo Guerrero, who's a real pro wrestler from the Guerrero family. And he's just this incredible teacher.

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Chapter 7: How does Nick Offerman view the intersection of acting and woodworking?

375.263 - 394.673 Nick Offerman

He did the show Glow. He did the Iron Claw show. And so he's become kind of the Hollywood go-to guy. And he was just a wonderful teacher. I mean, the fact that I was able to do all my own wrestling in the show and never once go to the hospital is a great credit to him and our stunt coordinator, John Epstein.

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395.007 - 407.128 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Yeah, you're shown wrestling in flashbacks, you're sort of on videotapes, and then you wrestle at an expo for wrestlers, and you even wrestle Nicole Kidman's character.

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408.851 - 417.285 Nick Offerman

Yeah, that was in the modern parlance of not on my bingo card. Wrestling Nicole Kidman was definitely not on

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418.7 - 438.647 Anne-Marie Baldonado

Now, you do a lot of acting with a baby in this show, holding a baby, actually comforting a baby because your character, Jinx, is surprisingly tender and really great with the baby and able to calm the baby down. I was thinking, wow, Nick Offerman is really acting with this baby a lot.

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Chapter 8: What are the themes explored in John Powers' review of 'Big Mistakes'?

438.707 - 443.914 Anne-Marie Baldonado

And that seemed like a very good little actor. Can you talk about acting with the baby?

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444.367 - 466.341 Nick Offerman

I love babies and animals, and I'm lucky that I have an affinity with creatures. So I loved that that was sort of part of the character. As you can imagine, when you work with babies in television and film, you have to have at least a couple babies so that you can switch them out.

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466.321 - 489.966 Nick Offerman

They can't work that long in general, but also if one of them is having a bad day or some gas, you can swap in a happier baby or not. And so we had these two really heroic babies named River and Graham, and they were incredible. I mean, these two kids who started working with us at six months of age, I mean, they were just astonishing.

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490.006 - 502.827 Nick Offerman

We would finish these dramatic scenes with Elle and Michelle sitting And everyone would say, good Lord, did you see what that baby did? They really were scene stealers. And so I just loved working with them.

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503.788 - 519.025 Anne-Marie Baldonado

I want to play another scene from this series. Here, Jinx is at Margo's apartment with the baby. He's cleaned the place. He's trying to help out. And he decides to ask Margo if he can move in. Again, Margo is played by Elle Fanning.

519.899 - 549.526 Nick Offerman

Susie mentioned that you might be looking for a roommate and I need a place to live. Oh, um, well, I mean, look, I can't contribute a ton for rent. The divorce wiped me out, but I can cook and I can clean. And the idea of getting to spend time with you lost time. Okay, I think I got my answer.

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It's not... No, we do need a roommate, and it would be nice to spend time with you. But? I know the statistics on drug addicts. And if you were going to stay here, you would have to be clean. If you were going to be around Bodhi.

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Margot...

577.342 - 583.492 Nick Offerman

I am clean. I am the one who checked myself into rehab.

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