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Tanya Mosley

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Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

He used words like mutual, consensual, enthusiastic.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And those were actually words that you yourself used at certain points throughout the years before you came to understand.

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

When did your understanding of what happened start to shift?

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

In the aftermath of a sexual assault, yes.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

I want to get back to the language thing a little bit because I think it's just really important.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You spend a lot of time on it in the book.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And I bring up what Matt said happened because he continually refers to it as an affair.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

For some time, you talked about it as an affair.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

But when you read the story from your point of view...

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

It wasn't even transactional.

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

There was nothing romantic about it.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

There wasn't even anything.

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

It didn't even read like a hookup where there are two people who mutually agree.

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

We're going to just meet and have this, you know, this liaison that we have.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You talked about the difference between consent and agreement.

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

And can you explain that distinction?

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Because I think it's at the heart of why these cases are so confusing to people.

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Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You talk about this in the book, too.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

Rumors of other, quote unquote, affairs.

Fresh Air
Former NBC producer on silence, shame and finding words after #MeToo

You do work there when you're out on assignment.