Taro Fukuyama

So we had a different idea when we got into the Y Combinator and we changed the idea to this idea.

Yep.

We actually changed seven times in the first month of the batch, which was three-month batch of programs.

I remember that Paul Graham called us, we are the worst company in the batch.

Yeah, he told me it's the way that he motivated us to work harder, but there's no way that was motivating for us at the time.

First idea was more like dating app that you can meet more from introduction.

And then it became more like Instacart idea, and it became a translation company, became more like job searching.

I can't even remember all the others, but yeah.

Yeah, I think the biggest question we started asking was like, when you start asking around about ideas for, you know, potential customers or prospects, they all say nice things because they want to stay being friendly with you.

But as long as they say, right after they say that, oh, that's a great idea.

If you say, all right, then we're going to build this in the next few months.

Can you give us a check so that we know that you're actually excited?

And then this is the first idea.

The one company said, all right, they will pay you money.

So let me know whenever it's ready.

That was like a few hundred bucks or something.

Really?

But the fact that the one company is actually willing to pay for this idea was enough for us to go for it.

Yep.

So I think there's a concept called MSP instead of MVP.