Taylor Lorenz

But I think that's actually, I think that since COVID started, I think COVID exacerbated that.

100%.

If you think back, and I do feel the need as an immunocompromised person to constantly remind people, we are still very much dealing with COVID.

No, no, no.

I know.

It just magically disappeared.

No, but I mean, I think like, I mean, I think of this a lot now because I'm immunocompromised, right?

And like, so it's really dangerous for me to do certain things.

Would I, you know, like I try to encourage people to mask, whatever.

But I think when you think back to kind of like early 2020,

we had this like brief, maybe like 48 hours when people were like, oh, kumbaya, whatever.

And then very quickly, we started to see these like, like the Karen main characters, right?

Or the main character of like, I refuse to wear my mask in the Starbucks or whatever.

Like, I think like that sort of energy, like very much got its initial traction in the earliest days of the pandemic.

And we're still experiencing the pandemic, but we're also still experiencing the craziness of this like internet enabled world that like, honestly, I think we've only...

barreled like further and further into.

Like I know we're all like technically less online theoretically than like April 2020, but we're almost like the internet is almost more embedded in our lives now.

Why don't you just say what you're talking about, the dates that you're talking about.

Are you talking about 2020?

Okay.