Taylor Lorenz

I don't know.

You can set your pronouns.

Yeah, exactly.

But it's like also it's so funny because like they were so early to identifying those problems with tech too.

Like they were so early to identify all these speech problems and all these deplatforming issues and all of that stuff.

And they just they capitalized on it so well.

I think the last point you made is really crucial here, which is that ultimately it's the Zionists that continue to force this narrative that there is no difference between Jewish people and Zionism and that these two things are interchangeable.

And

I mean, this is something that Netanyahu and again, the Zionist government in Israel continues to point to, or they say, you know, well, look, the majority of Jews do support Zionism, right?

These things that make it very hard for people to separate the two.

And I think that when you look at someone like Candace Owens or whatever, yeah, they want people like her to exist.

They want to conflate Judaism with Zionism and then be able to point to a conspiracy theorist or somebody saying hateful anti-Semitic things and say, look, see, look at how bad that is.

Look at how dangerous the world is.

This is why we need Israel, right?

Yeah.

Israel needs anti-Semitism to exist and needs anti-Semitism to flourish around the world in order to justify its weaponry and its very existence.

Yeah, I mean, it's very funny.

First of all, as many have pointed out, very ironic that Ben Shapiro kind of ultimately turned on her over Israel when this is sort of why I think Ben Shapiro and a lot of these people are ultimately losing in the conservative movement.

It's because like you've aligned yourself with fascists.

You can't say that you're fine sacrificing the rights of, you know, gay people, trans people, women, black people, right?