Taylor Lorenz

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You know, it's interesting because like when you say like post COVID, I think people began to stop acknowledging the ongoing pandemic at different rates.

and when i've done interviews about this like people will say well you know in june 2020 postcovid or in you know 2024 postcovid and it's like well what are you it basically just means for whoever whatever person is saying it it just means that's when they kind of decided to not acknowledge it anymore and i think that that's not as much of a helpful framing as it is to talk about kind of like the very real like

Yes.

I think that we're in a pandemic, a pandemic panic world, a pandemic or like I was like, it sounds like the name of your podcast.

I mean, you see so many memes about this online, right?

People be like, it doesn't feel the same since March 2020.

Like we entered a time warp in March 2020.

And it's like, yes, I would argue that's not only because.

of the ongoing pandemic and health issues and decline of America, but also because we sort of all pushed ourselves five or six years into the future with the internet.

I think we just accelerated so many shifts that were happening on the internet by all getting online and almost never getting offline.

Here's the thing that was interesting to me about that moment.

That so quickly, so like there were a few people that initially said exactly like the stuff that you're saying, right?

Like, how dare you?

You know, you're lucky that you even have a house.

Like most of us don't have houses, whatever, whatever.

But then I think because there's enough sort of cultural awareness of this type of backlash, you had all of these right wingers and these trolls posting content that was mimicking, that was mocking the,

real content that only a few people had posted, but they were like leaning into it.