Tegan

So the question that you asked before, and this really is the heart of Jamie's question is, is there anything that you can get from only fruit that you're missing out of if you don't eat fruit, but you do eat vegetables?

To which the answer is fruit actually is all around.

And I think anyone who's gone past about year three in school knows that like a tomato is a fruit because there's always that one kid in the year three who's like, you know, tomato is actually a fruit.

But like so is cucumber.

No, a capsicum is a fruit.

A fruit botanically is something that comes from a plant that bears seeds and it's the ovaries of that seed-bearing plant.

So if it has seeds, it's a fruit generally.

So yeah, apples, oranges.

Exactly.

And so when we divide things into fruit and vegetables, because I went down a bit of a rabbit hole.

I looked at the Australian Healthy Eating Guidelines.

I looked at some research that looked at intake of fruit and vegetables, and it's very much self-reported and kind of like...

It's like a cultural interpretation of what a fruit is in Australia based on the way we eat them.

And effectively, sweet equals fruit, savoury equals vegetable.

That is the only way I can make sense of the way we categorise these things because half of the veggies that we eat in our diets are technically fruit.

Going back to the Australian guidelines for healthy eating, we recommended to have five serves of vegetables and two serves of fruit every day.

Almost no one meets those guidelines.

More people meet the fruit intake guidelines than the vegetable intake guidelines, which is probably a volume thing as much as anything else.

Fruit, in our cultural perception of what a fruit is, is often a little bit more portable.

You can chuck an apple in your bag and