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things that we usually think of as getting from fruit, vitamin C, potassium, antioxidants, bioactive compounds, natural sugars, if that's something you want or not, fiber is a big one.

And for all of the things that you can get from fruit, so vitamin C, obviously we think of citrus fruit, strawberries, guavas, you can get that in spades from things like kale, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, basically every vegetable.

We think about bananas as a source of potassium.

You can get that from potatoes, sweet potatoes, baby spinach.

Antioxidants basically taste the rainbow, as you and Priya are always saying on The Health Report.

Priya loves talking about eating rainbows.

If you're having that variety of colours in the foods that we're eating, whether it's fruit or vegetables, that's good.

And obviously fibre is in basically any plant food, but it's particularly high in all sorts of veggies, grains, beans, peas and lentils.

So what about just taking a step back and going, okay, we just take it as understood that fruit and vegetables are good for us.

Where does that evidence actually come from?

How do we know this?

What about the other end of the spectrum?

What do we know about what happens if you're not getting that intake?

Is it mostly cardiovascular disease that we're protecting against, or is this catching a lot of big factors here?

So basically the takeaway for Jamie is as long as you're eating veggies, don't stress too much about not eating fruit if you don't like it.

Some recommendations from Dr. Norman Swan.

A surprise second question for you, Norman.

Oh, really?

This one comes from Jonathan.

Jonathan said the Economist had an article about CRISPR gene editing for fruit that mentioned some of the changes to fruit over the last few thousand years.