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Terence Tao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3115 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, Erdos posed the problem once or twice.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I think maybe some people tried it casually and they couldn't do it, but they never wrote up anything.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But it turned out that there was a solution and it was just maybe combining this one obscure technique that not many people know about with some other result in the literature.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And that's the median level of what AI can accomplish.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And that's really great.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It clears out 50 of these problems.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So I think you'll see some isolated successes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But what we found, so people have done large-scale sweeps of these early problems.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

If you only focus on the success stories, the ones that get broadcast on social media, it looks amazing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

All these problems that haven't been solved before for decades, now they're falling.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But whenever we do a systematic study, any given problem, an AI tool has a success rate of maybe 1% or 2%.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It's just that they can buy a scale.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And if you just pick the winners, it looks great.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So I think it'll be a similar thing happening with, you know, there are hundreds of really prestigious, difficult math problems out there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

A couple may make, you know, somebody may get lucky and solve them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And there was there was some

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

some backdoor to solve the problem that everyone else missed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And that will get a lot of publicity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But then people will try these fancy tools on their own favorite problem, and they will again experience the 1% to 2% success rate.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So there will be a lot of noise amongst the signal of sort of when they're working, when they're not.