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Terence Tao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3115 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Yeah, this idea of building up cumulatively from partial progress is what's still not quite there yet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Yeah, you run a new session and it's forgotten what it just did.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It has no new skills to attach to build on related problems.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Maybe what you just did is part of 0.001% of the training data for the next generation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So maybe eventually some of it gets absorbed.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Yeah, we don't know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, some problems have been basically solved by pure brute force.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

A four-color theorem is a famous example.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

We have still not found a conceptually elegant proof of this theorem.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It basically...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And maybe we never will.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, some problems may only be solvable by just splitting into some enormous number of cases and doing a brute force, an insightful computer analysis on each case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, part of the reason we prize problems like the Rune hypothesis is that we're pretty sure that something amazing has to, a new type of mathematics has to be created or a new connection between two previously unconnected areas of mathematics has to be created.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

discovered to make this work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

We don't even know what the shape of the solution is, but it doesn't feel like a problem that will be solved just by exhaustively checking cases or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, it could be false, actually.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

We could actually, okay, there is an unlikely scenario that the hypothesis is false, and you can just compute, oh, here's a zero off the line, and a massive computer calculation verifies it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

That would be very disappointing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I don't know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I do feel that fully autonomous one-shot approaches are not the right approach for these problems.