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Terence Tao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3115 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, I think you will get a lot more mileage out of the interplay between humans collaborating with these tools.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I can see one of these problems being solved by some smart humans assisted by some extremely powerful AI tools.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But the exact dynamic may be very different from what we envisioned right now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, it could be a collaboration of a type that just doesn't exist yet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Yeah, I mean, there may be a way to generate a million variants of the Riemann zeta function and do some data analysis, AI-assisted data analysis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And we discover some pattern between connecting them, which we didn't know about before.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And this lets you transform the problem into a different area of mathematics.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I mean, there could be all kinds of scenarios.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So suppose...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Well, the beauty of formalizing a proof in something like Lean is that you can take any piece of it and study it atomically.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So when I read a paper with my humans, which solves some difficult problem, there's some big sequence of lemmas and theorems and things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And so...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Ideally, the author will talk their way through what's important, what's not, but sometimes they don't reveal what steps were the important ones and which ones are just kind of boilerplate standard steps.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But you can study each lemma in isolation and some of them I can say, oh, this looks fairly standard.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

This resembles something I'm familiar with.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I'm pretty sure there's nothing interesting going on here.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But this lemma, oh, that's something I haven't seen before.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And I could see why if you had this result, that would really help prove the main result.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

You can assess whether some things are really key to your argument or not.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And Lean really facilitates that.