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Terence Tao

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3115 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

The individual steps are identified really precisely.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I think in the future, there'll be entire professions of mathematicians who might take a giant

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

lean generated proof and maybe do some ablation on it or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I try to remove parts of it and try to find more elegant ways, maybe some other AIs to sort of do some reinforcement learning.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

How can you make the proof more elegant and maybe other AIs will grade whether this proof looks better or not.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

One thing that will change quite a bit in the near future is that until recently, writing papers was the most time consuming and expensive part of the job.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And so you did it very rarely.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

You only wrote up your results once everything was all the other parts of your argument were.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

were checked out and things, because just rewriting it again, refactoring was a total pain.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But that's one thing that's become a lot easier now with modern AI tools.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So you don't have to have just one version of your paper.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Once you have one, people can generate hundreds more.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

So yeah, one giant messy lean proof may not be very meaningful or understandable on its own, but other people can refactor it and do all kinds of things with it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

We have seen it with the Erdos Problem website, you know, that people will, an AI will generate a proof and then here's 3,000 lines of code that verify the proof.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

But then people got other AIs to summarize the proof and people write their own proofs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

There's actually...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

post-processing, once you actually have one proof, we actually have a lot of tools now to deconstruct it and interpret it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

It's a very nascent area of science or mathematics, but I'm not as worried about, you know, so some people are concerned, what if the real hypothesis is proven with a completely incomprehensible proof?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

I think once you have the artifact of a proof, we can do a lot of analysis on it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

We don't really know.