Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
If I talk about x, is x a real number or a natural number or a function or something?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
If you write things informally,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
It's often in some context.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
You say, you know, clearly X is equal to, let X be the sum of Y and Z, and Y and Z were already real numbers, so X should also be a real number.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
So Lean can do a lot of that, but every so often it says, wait a minute, can you tell me more about what this object is, what type of object it is?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
You have to think more at a philosophical level, not just sort of computations that you're doing, but sort of what each object actually is in some sense.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
It's using much more traditional, good old-fashioned AI.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
You can represent all these things as trees, and there's always algorithm to match one tree to another tree.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
So it's actually doable to figure out if something is...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
a real number or a natural number.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
Yeah, every object sort of comes with a history of where it came from and you can kind of trace it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
Oh, I see.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
Yeah, so it's designed for reliability.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
So, modern AIs are not used in, it's a disjoint technology.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
People are beginning to use AIs on top of Lean.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
So, when a mathematician tries to program a proof in Lean, often there's a step, okay, now I want to use the fundamental calculus, say, okay, to do the next step.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
So, the Lean developers have built this massive project called MethLib.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
a collection of tens of thousands of useful facts about mathematical objects.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
And somewhere in there is the fundamental theorem of calculus, but you need to find it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#472 โ Terence Tao: Hardest Problems in Mathematics, Physics & the Future of AI
So a lot of the bottleneck now is actually lemma search.