Terence Winter

Just need another order. And then selling it out your back door. And how many, you know, neighborhood people had stills in their kitchen? You know, you could make, you know, extra money by, you know, you'd have guys like entire tenement buildings. Everybody had a little still. And, you know, you could make an extra 20 bucks a week in 1920. That was a fortune.

Just need another order. And then selling it out your back door. And how many, you know, neighborhood people had stills in their kitchen? You know, you could make, you know, extra money by, you know, you'd have guys like entire tenement buildings. Everybody had a little still. And, you know, you could make an extra 20 bucks a week in 1920. That was a fortune.

That was your grocery money, I'm assuming, or more. And, you know, local gangsters would just come around and pick everything up and sell it. And this went on for years. And again, you know, all unintended consequences of this. And again, back to me, back to what the point I made before about this making millionaires out of criminals overnight.

That was your grocery money, I'm assuming, or more. And, you know, local gangsters would just come around and pick everything up and sell it. And this went on for years. And again, you know, all unintended consequences of this. And again, back to me, back to what the point I made before about this making millionaires out of criminals overnight.

This is how organized crime infiltrated legitimate business. They needed a place to put all that money. And it's like, great, let's buy trucking companies, which they initially did to transport all this stuff. Then it was like, you know, let's buy warehouses, let's buy real estate, let's get into other things. And this...

This is how organized crime infiltrated legitimate business. They needed a place to put all that money. And it's like, great, let's buy trucking companies, which they initially did to transport all this stuff. Then it was like, you know, let's buy warehouses, let's buy real estate, let's get into other things. And this...

Over that 12-year period enabled them to infiltrate every other area of American life.

Over that 12-year period enabled them to infiltrate every other area of American life.

Yeah. I mean, up until prohibition, most organized crime was, you know, gambling, prostitution, extortion, things of that nature that were, I guess, lucrative, but not. This was just a windfall that they couldn't have even possibly predicted. And I mean, I guess I'm certainly not the first person to make the observation that the drug business today is exactly the same thing.

Yeah. I mean, up until prohibition, most organized crime was, you know, gambling, prostitution, extortion, things of that nature that were, I guess, lucrative, but not. This was just a windfall that they couldn't have even possibly predicted. And I mean, I guess I'm certainly not the first person to make the observation that the drug business today is exactly the same thing.

No, I mean, there's so many details you brought up that I hadn't heard of. And it's it's again, it's just endlessly fascinating.

No, I mean, there's so many details you brought up that I hadn't heard of. And it's it's again, it's just endlessly fascinating.

My pleasure is so fun to do. I can't wait to hear season three. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thanks so much, Ed. Take care.

My pleasure is so fun to do. I can't wait to hear season three. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thanks so much, Ed. Take care.