Terence Winter

So, you know, I was very aware of the fact that bootleggers would incorporate, sometime it got to the point where they'd mix turpentine, they'd mix wood alcohol, you know, all of which, you know, into their shitty, you know, home manufactured stuff. And that was killing people and making people blind. Sure. There was a rash of people who went blind.

So, you know, I was very aware of the fact that bootleggers would incorporate, sometime it got to the point where they'd mix turpentine, they'd mix wood alcohol, you know, all of which, you know, into their shitty, you know, home manufactured stuff. And that was killing people and making people blind. Sure. There was a rash of people who went blind.

I think it was in New York City, like 18 people over the course of a weekend who all drank the same bootleg alcohol. I'm wondering now if was that some of the stuff that the government was actually now sneaking into the criminal, like how were people getting government poisoned liquor?

I think it was in New York City, like 18 people over the course of a weekend who all drank the same bootleg alcohol. I'm wondering now if was that some of the stuff that the government was actually now sneaking into the criminal, like how were people getting government poisoned liquor?

Formaldehyde too, is when we actually did that on the show, actually showing somebody using it and anything. And it's interesting too, like this is the, people don't realize like the advent of the mixed drink came because of prohibition because the bootleg alcohol was so vile, they had to start mixing it with fruit juices and stuff.

Formaldehyde too, is when we actually did that on the show, actually showing somebody using it and anything. And it's interesting too, like this is the, people don't realize like the advent of the mixed drink came because of prohibition because the bootleg alcohol was so vile, they had to start mixing it with fruit juices and stuff.

So all this stuff that we know today, you know, up until prohibition, it was, you know, straight whiskey, beer, you know, it was just straight alcohol.

So all this stuff that we know today, you know, up until prohibition, it was, you know, straight whiskey, beer, you know, it was just straight alcohol.

You know, and you do you just drank it to get drunk quickly, I guess. I don't know. There's a lot of sipping going on. But it was, you know, suddenly all the drinks that you hear about today, you know, are, you know, come from the need to make this stuff palatable. And what killed me, too, is I love the details, the lengths bootleggers would go to in terms of.

You know, and you do you just drank it to get drunk quickly, I guess. I don't know. There's a lot of sipping going on. But it was, you know, suddenly all the drinks that you hear about today, you know, are, you know, come from the need to make this stuff palatable. And what killed me, too, is I love the details, the lengths bootleggers would go to in terms of.

creating false labels, getting the bottle, filling it up with alcohol. There was one detail that blew my mind that they would create a whole false crate of alcohol, put them in fishing nets, like a bunch of them, and then take the fishing nets and dunk it in the water, leave it in seawater for a couple of hours and come out.

creating false labels, getting the bottle, filling it up with alcohol. There was one detail that blew my mind that they would create a whole false crate of alcohol, put them in fishing nets, like a bunch of them, and then take the fishing nets and dunk it in the water, leave it in seawater for a couple of hours and come out.

You know, you dump this big fishing net full of crates that say Johnny Walker or whatever it was, and there's still seaweed on it. And you go, nobody would ever think you've fake this, but the lengths they would go to to make stuff that was fake look real. You know, wow. I mean, and that appealed to the con man in me. I go, wow, what a brilliant little touch. You can still smell the salt water.

You know, you dump this big fishing net full of crates that say Johnny Walker or whatever it was, and there's still seaweed on it. And you go, nobody would ever think you've fake this, but the lengths they would go to to make stuff that was fake look real. You know, wow. I mean, and that appealed to the con man in me. I go, wow, what a brilliant little touch. You can still smell the salt water.

It's obviously came out of off a boat in the ocean. Yeah, no, that's made in some guy's garage.

It's obviously came out of off a boat in the ocean. Yeah, no, that's made in some guy's garage.

But yeah, it's like, wow, that's, that's, you know, and that's, I think what people don't realize that criminals, 24 hours a day is people thinking about how to do this shit. You know, it's pretty, pretty incredible. And even the hypocrisy too, I'm thinking like, as you were talking, you know, the whole, the Catholic church, you know, it's sacrificial wine. Sure. Suddenly...

But yeah, it's like, wow, that's, that's, you know, and that's, I think what people don't realize that criminals, 24 hours a day is people thinking about how to do this shit. You know, it's pretty, pretty incredible. And even the hypocrisy too, I'm thinking like, as you were talking, you know, the whole, the Catholic church, you know, it's sacrificial wine. Sure. Suddenly...

They had unbelievable demand for sacrificial wine. And the Jewish churches suddenly, you know, everybody was a rabbi because there was an exclusion. Like you could do it for religious things or doctors. How many doctors were running prescriptions?

They had unbelievable demand for sacrificial wine. And the Jewish churches suddenly, you know, everybody was a rabbi because there was an exclusion. Like you could do it for religious things or doctors. How many doctors were running prescriptions?