Terence Winter

Harry Daugherty, Warren Harding, that whole administration was just like, you know, you can't. And that's another thing that just surprised me about the era. You know, again, it's, you know, the idea of corrupt politicians. These guys were selling shit right out of the White House.

Harry Daugherty, Warren Harding, that whole administration was just like, you know, you can't. And that's another thing that just surprised me about the era. You know, again, it's, you know, the idea of corrupt politicians. These guys were selling shit right out of the White House.

I mean, you literally, you know, there were bootleggers who were showing up at the Capitol with suitcases full of stuff, selling it, you know, selling their stuff to congresspeople. And like you could buy anything you wanted from Harry Daugherty and his guy, Jess Smith. And just another fascinating relationship. So.

I mean, you literally, you know, there were bootleggers who were showing up at the Capitol with suitcases full of stuff, selling it, you know, selling their stuff to congresspeople. And like you could buy anything you wanted from Harry Daugherty and his guy, Jess Smith. And just another fascinating relationship. So.

Yeah. And a real guy. Right. Yeah, I mean, the more we would research this, the more incredible it became. Another detail, too. Al Capone's brother, one of his brothers, moved out to the West and became a sheriff. And he was like a cowboy sheriff who would arrest bootleggers. Yeah. And we're like, we've got to get this on the show. And we could never work it in.

Yeah. And a real guy. Right. Yeah, I mean, the more we would research this, the more incredible it became. Another detail, too. Al Capone's brother, one of his brothers, moved out to the West and became a sheriff. And he was like a cowboy sheriff who would arrest bootleggers. Yeah. And we're like, we've got to get this on the show. And we could never work it in.

But it's like just these little odds and ends. You're like, holy shit, this actually was real.

But it's like just these little odds and ends. You're like, holy shit, this actually was real.

Or George Ramis, too, another one, like one of the craziest stories you hear about, like an incredibly successful defense attorney becomes like the biggest bootlegger ever and then loses everything, goes to jail, and then his wife dies. Completely steals all of his money in conjunction with a federal agent who she has an affair with.

Or George Ramis, too, another one, like one of the craziest stories you hear about, like an incredibly successful defense attorney becomes like the biggest bootlegger ever and then loses everything, goes to jail, and then his wife dies. Completely steals all of his money in conjunction with a federal agent who she has an affair with.

And then he gets out of jail and then murders her and then is found not guilty by reason of insanity. He represented himself with a temporary insanity plea. And it's like, if I made that up, you'd be like, come on. And this absolutely all happened.

And then he gets out of jail and then murders her and then is found not guilty by reason of insanity. He represented himself with a temporary insanity plea. And it's like, if I made that up, you'd be like, come on. And this absolutely all happened.

Yeah, he's like, yeah, why would you think you'd have to do that? But, yeah, I mean, I guess it's the same principle now. Like, you go, okay, well, I don't care how you earned your money. Even if it's illegal, you still have to pay taxes on it. Yeah, exactly. And that's, I guess, how they get, you know, they get Al Capone, you know, for tax evasion.

Yeah, he's like, yeah, why would you think you'd have to do that? But, yeah, I mean, I guess it's the same principle now. Like, you go, okay, well, I don't care how you earned your money. Even if it's illegal, you still have to pay taxes on it. Yeah, exactly. And that's, I guess, how they get, you know, they get Al Capone, you know, for tax evasion.

It's like, I know you said you were a furniture salesman, but you've got a million dollars here, so okay. Yeah.

It's like, I know you said you were a furniture salesman, but you've got a million dollars here, so okay. Yeah.

I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor.

I'm not a victim, I'm a survivor.

So I have to assume formulas two through five were varying degrees of how bad is this going to be? Formula 4 is like diarrhea. That's not enough. We've got to really get blisters. Formula 5 knocks you out for like a week. Yeah, exactly. Formula 6, you're dead. Formula 6, you're not drinking anymore.

So I have to assume formulas two through five were varying degrees of how bad is this going to be? Formula 4 is like diarrhea. That's not enough. We've got to really get blisters. Formula 5 knocks you out for like a week. Yeah, exactly. Formula 6, you're dead. Formula 6, you're not drinking anymore.