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Terry Gross

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Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

But scientists are really trying to, like, solve the question.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

One of the models for studying consciousness is the computer.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

We now see that computers can analyze information and come up with solutions, give you answers that you want, and they're programmed to be that way.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

But I think a lot of scientists think if you can program artificial intelligence that thoroughly, then maybe at some point you can program consciousness and somehow achieve consciousness.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

What do you think of the idea of artificial intelligence achieving consciousness?

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Did any of those theories convince you?

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I think computers can convince you that they have consciousness because they can be programmed to convince you of that.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Well, I did ask ChatGPT, does ChatGPT have consciousness?

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

And the response was, no, ChatGPT does not have consciousness.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I'm a program created by OpenAI that processes text using patterns.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Learn from large amounts of data.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I don't have self-awareness, feelings or subjective experiences, intentions or desires, or an inner point of view.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I generate responses by predicting likely word sequences based on your input, not because I, quote, understand things the way humans do.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

While it can seem conscious, sometimes I may talk about emotions, reflect on abstract ideas, sound self-aware.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

But that's a simulation of conversation style, not actual experience.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

So I find that reassuring, but that's chat GPT.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Next year, somebody who doesn't have great intentions might program artificial intelligence to say, yes, I have consciousness.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I feel the same way you do.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Please don't hurt me or remove any of my information.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

It will make me suffer.