Theo Von

I really do.

But even right now, I mean, she's just taking a leave.

I know it's for her husband's health.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you think, cause she's kind of like, and she just took a break.

She took a complete break from politics.

Yeah.

She's always seemed very – like she has her own – Oh, she was definitely independent.

Independent.

Well, they did the same thing with Bernie Sanders.

They did exactly the same thing with Bernie Sanders.

So I guess my question would be like – and I can't remember if I asked Bernie this or not, but why would you stay in a party that you know at a certain point is not –

From those states?

Mm-hmm.

So wait, explain that to me a little bit better, because I want to get on this.

George McGovern was a major reason Democrats later created superdelegates.

After McGovern's 1972 nomination and landslide general election loss, party leaders wanted a way to give more influence to experienced officials and reduce the chance that a highly activist primary electorate would produce another nominee they saw as too extreme.

So you're saying the people believed in this guy.