Theo Von

on the fences surrounding the, uh, the base.

And so you come in like at this crazy kind of pattern and, uh, and you kind of had to go around.

I think we went from to go around and come up from the South.

We went from somewhere in Florida and went around.

Yeah.

It was pretty intense.

I mean, it was definitely, it was interesting.

Uh, and then we got to go right up by the, by the detainee centers.

And I think we even saw some guys playing volleyball and stuff, but, um,

Were there tortures where people lost their lives that you were involved in?

Not that I was involved in, thank God.

But like at what point do you call like one office getting out of hand?

Like have you been in one that was getting out of hand?

Because you ended up coming out and speaking out about torture that was happening.

Yeah.

Right.

But how would they let you do that if you weren't aware of it firsthand, though?

Huh.

Was some of it pretty intense, do you feel like?

So you're in like one of those – kind of one of those places you can go pay to do and it's like quiet in there?