Theresa Payton

And then also be asking your board and your risk committees if they are getting regular quantified updates on the exposure that the company has due to sort of this dual use AI risk of frontier models being used against you instead of on your behalf.

I would say for the security teams, a lot of the things you already had on your roadmap that you just haven't had a chance to get to because the enterprise you work for hasn't prioritized it or put money against it, the door's now open for you to go back in and have that conversation to say, we have to operate at machine speed because that's going to be what's coming at us.

Yeah, I mean, so my understanding is many of them were already there for another reason, for another conversation.

But this is fairly unprecedented to have this kind of a meeting called potentially on this topic.

We don't, there's no minutes of the meeting.

We don't know what was discussed.

But the fact that

they got together at this level and had a conversation should give everybody sort of pause.

One, we know that the way the world moves around is money has to move around.

And so obviously there's concern about some type of an attack that could either stop money from moving or make sure that money moves to the wrong places and not to the right places.

And remember, money does now move at the speed of machine.

So how are we protecting at the speed of machine?

That probably was a big part of the conversation and making sure that people really understood this is your top priority.

Yeah, absolutely.

don't build up, you know, whether it's a military for kinetic perspective, because we wouldn't want to have a military because that could create, you know, sort of unsafe posture.

Well, but if somebody else is building a military, you need to at least, you know, kind of have that perspective.

So it's the same thing with something like this.

You don't want to say you can't release this tool because it's dangerous.

Well, it's dangerous not to have this tool now that we know that we have it because it's

cyber criminal syndicates in nation states, if they weren't already building one, they just literally read the headline and they're building one.