Thomas Drance

But that's also just bad bets on bad characters.

But that's what I mean.

Jalen Chatfield would have kept coming.

But they also don't manage the value well.

No, but they were wasteful.

They lacked creativity.

I mean, because that's the bending regime.

That's the summer of 2021.

That's the same summer where instead of leaving the draft with, you know, Gunther and Stankoven, you leave with Klimovic and Oliver Ekman-Larsen, right?

Like...

That's it.

That right there.

He was young enough that he needed a qualifying offer.

And by the way, I'd even add because I bet you're basically echoing our whiteboard today.

Oh, OK, cool.

I'd even add some space to make mistakes.

Every team is going to make mistakes.

And especially early on, like some space to make some mistakes and figure out what you did wrong and, you know, empower the right people and figure out who like, sometimes it takes a year or two sitting around a boardroom with a team to know whose opinions are the ones that are most often right.

Like who's banging the table for Benson and who's banging the table for Valander.

And then you'd learn over time to listen to the Benson person.