Thomas Massey

As far as I know.

And by the way, on what grounds?

That's a good question.

On what grounds did Prince Andrew lose his title?

Did the British ambassador have to resign?

Did the former prime minister of Norway get indicted?

On what grounds?

Not for pedophilia or sex trafficking, but for misabuse of state power and state secrets and state authority.

And this gets to what I believe Epstein was.

My background is technology.

I'm not a hacker, but I went to school with a lot of people who are hackers and I still know people who are hackers.

It's actually very difficult through wires to break into most of these systems.

The guys who get the biggest breaches of data are able to get a human on the phone.

and convince them to give up their password or get a human on an email right like phishing is but if you can get physical proximity to somebody's phone or their computer that's the that's the holy grail of hacking if once you get physical proximity or if you can get somebody so comfortable maybe they're in another room having sex or doing a line of cocaine and they leave their laptop in that room without logging out

then that's the holy grail of hacking.

You don't have to be good, you gotta be lucky or have really good human.

And I believe that's what Jeffrey Epstein was purveyor of, was direct access to individuals.

He was interested in meeting with market makers, people who were gonna move markets, hedge fund managers, that sort of thing.

And foreign officials and dignitaries who were gonna make laws and make decisions that would move markets.

You know when the probability in my mind that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself went from 5% to 0% is when I heard the recording that he serendipitously recorded of Ehud Barak when he was about to leave as defense minister of Israel.