Thomas Massey

Jeffrey Epstein was advising him on his next career steps.

And in this recording, just cool as a cucumber, he says, make a list of everybody that owes you something for all the things you did for them while you were in government.

And then go get on these boards and draw a check.

And he was explaining how Ehud Barak could make money once he left the employ of the government of Israel.

And this is a recording.

It's an insight into Jeffrey Epstein's mind that you don't really get

otherwise, even through emails.

And it was revealing to me, Jeffrey Epstein strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't be that worried that he was in prison.

I think in his mind, it was a temporary condition that he either...

Who are the highest level federal officials, by the way?

They're not always the elected people.

Like when we talk about the deep state,

These are the Victoria Newlands of the world.

Right.

Those are the people who are causing coups.

And is that the highest level?

Are we talking about the highest level of the permanent government?

Or are we talking about ostensibly the highest level, the people who get elected and pretend to wield power like Pam Bondi?

Yes.

Because she's never been the highest level at the Department of Justice.