Thomas Thatcher

But it doesn't mean you're not going to go up and down.

And so even to this day, even without writing the book, I get on it.

But I have such a wonderful network of help and love and support and whatever that

That when I'm on it, my son who helped me somewhat with the book and read the book, I'll be running my racket or something and I'll say, I don't know if you really love me or not.

I came over with the kids and they didn't give me attention or you guys didn't give me attention or everything.

And he immediately goes, dad, get off it right now.

So, yeah, we like to revert back to things.

It's not easy.

And I don't know if you're a golfer.

When you try to change your swing at golf, it's great.

After you change your swing, you say, great, I'm really hitting the ball a long way.

This is wonderful.

But then you kind of want to revert right back to what you've been doing because it's so comfortable.

So the fact, do you get better and better?

Yes.

When I was on the tack, it used to be a week before I got off.

Now I can get off in about less than an hour.

And that's the real difference.

Not that you won't get back on it, but that you won't stay on it for a long period of time.

Exactly.