Thomas Thatcher

And so I did not learn the idea that I just thought, just because of being my father's son, I can be successful too or whatever.

And that's not the case.

You've got to be responsible for you.

And you've got to understand that your happiness and your well-being and all the things that you value or want to have happen

They're up to you.

They're not up to other people.

They're not.

They can help and they can be of good service and be keys and everything.

But in the bottom line, it's up to you.

So if I would say one word that was the key for me, it was responsibility, personal responsibility, saying I'm a cause in the matter and I am responsible for myself.

Right.

It was difficult because then I had my mom who was, oh, my goodness, you're being mean to your sons.

And this business is supposed to be for two equal sons.

And my dad going, now, listen, dear, I'm going to run the business.

You run the family.

I love your help and support, but this is my business and I'm going to decide what's best for the business.

So, yeah.

And the thing that's the problem with this, Morgan, is it just doesn't stay central.

It's like kind of a

oil spill in a lake.