Tim

G'day, boys.

Am I on?

You're on, mate.

I'm in the no camp and just to, I'll be brief, but, you know, 2013, he was responsible for where we are now, but that's not the main point.

And he did blow up those boys' lives and their lives have been ruined and no careers.

But more importantly, I think Andrew Welsh came in, I think my understanding is one of the first things he did when he was a board member was support James Heard against the board with the, you know, with Sheets behind him.

Then he got Dean Solomon on the board and then he moved Dean to the coaching position.

So I suspect that whoever, Andrew's had an agenda, and Brad or whoever it was, has not been able to get a fair crack at coaching with the strategy and execute the strategy because the board are going back to the same old, same old.

Morning, guys.

To Tim, here's a question.

Would you rather...

Heard coach Essendon get close or have someone else coach Essendon and win a flag?

And I say that because it seems like there's a narrative in the club that the club cannot move on unless Heard has a crack, regardless of the results.

Yes, I'm with you, Gary.

I think this will never end unless he's given another go.

And

And Scotty, look, he lost me after Friday night, after Long's passionate speech and the players didn't perform.

And I just think that we have to get the best person.

The best person won't get it now because once Hurd put his hand up, do you think that a number of prospective coaches...

will not put their hand up because they think it's a changing process.