Tim Burchett

I'm not a pilot or military person, but flight line.

Is what I call it.

They're not able to fly and they're given a psych evaluation and they're given an eight hour.

They call it a debriefing.

It's I've been told by some of the officers have been involved.

It's really just an interrogation.

And then you got that hanging on your record.

They just keep their mouth shut.

I literally had a guy tell me, Joe, that he said his recorder, it was an older style plane, and I think he said it was close to his right knee.

And when he got that on his recorder, he started smashing it with his right knee to discombobulate it so that it wasn't even – because he didn't want anything – he did not need it.

He saw it.

He didn't need it on his record, even if he saw it and it was on a dadgum tape.

They they drag you in.

And so, you know, myself, Luna and Matt Gates went down to Florida to be briefed by Matt was told that some some pilots had seen some things and they had some photographs.

And so we go down there, and again, we go in.

I told Matt, I said, Matt, they don't give up this stuff easy.

We're going to go down there, and I have a bad feeling they're going to turn us out.

Well, we went down there, and Joe, they briefed us on some very

very serious issues that they were dealing with, with the Chinese and communist infiltration and things going on around Florida and the ocean.

But they did never have the – they wouldn't bring the pilots in.