Tim Dodd

Goddamn Freemasons.

But the Artemis, so the Orion capsule is what the Artemis program is using instead of the Apollo capsule.

It's about 50% bigger.

That launches on its own rocket called SLS.

Now, there's a lot of people not stoked on that rocket and that vehicle because it's insanely expensive.

And it's just like caught up in all the bureaucracy because basically NASA was congressionally mandated to use as much space shuttle hardware as possible.

Like literally when I say space shuttle hardware, I mean like they're literally reusing the engines that flew on the space shuttle.

Really?

They're literally reusing the solid rocket boosters from the space shuttle because they didn't want to lose all these jobs.

You know, so it became like a jobs program of like spatial programs ending 2011.

Hey, you know, at first they looked at it as it was called the, um, it was called, oh my God, the, uh, areas one and two for the constellation or areas one and five for the constellation program.

And then that ended up being already way over, you know, way over budget, way behind target.

And they turned it into this other program that eventually became called the Artemis program and the rockets called the SLS or the space launch system.

And it's cost roughly $3 billion a year for the last 10 years, 11 years.

And the Orion capsules cost almost the same for the last 15 years to make.

So we're talking about billions of dollars into this vehicle.

When again, so the frustration with a lot of the spaceflight community is they've received $30 billion so far.

They've had one test launch in 2022, went great, relatively great, with no humans on it.

And then this is the first time they're putting humans on it.

And they're doing it for 30 billion when the human lander, that's the huge, massive landing part that also has to go out to the moon, do all the things is getting $3 billion.