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#370 - “I Found the Proof That Ends the Moon Landing Debate” | Tim Dodd

09 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

7.051 - 30.021 Danny Jones

The first time I discovered you was when you made that video about addressing the whole moon landing conspiracy. You made the most incredible deep dive on all the points of the moon landing hoax, conspiracy, whatever you want to call it that I've ever seen. And you address them all. You bring a lot of information to it and you make a very compelling case for every single argument.

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30.001 - 37.633 Danny Jones

But before we get into all that, tell me your background and how you got into all this stuff, the rocketry stuff and everything you do with your YouTube channel.

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38.013 - 55.54 Tim Dodd

Yeah. So yeah, I run a YouTube channel called Everyday Astronaut. And I've been doing that full time since 2017. Before that, I was a professional photographer. So that's actually why I like a lot of this moon stuff. And when people have topics about the shadows and the lighting and the Stars and stuff.

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55.56 - 72.9 Tim Dodd

I'm always like, yes, this is like this is in my ultimate wheelhouse, you know, but starting in 2017, I really just became obsessed with spaceflight. It actually all started. I bought like a old Russian spacesuit kind of as a joke in 2013 and started a art project. And that art project, a photography project was called Everyday Astronaut.

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72.88 - 85.759 Tim Dodd

And so it was like, I literally took the suit around the world. I mean, I hiked the great wall of China with a space suit and like took pictures of me. I like, I don't know what I was doing really with it. Other than just, I wanted to make something. This is kind of an Instagram was like, you know, everyone's trying to do some catchy Instagram thing.

85.779 - 99.799 Tim Dodd

So that was kind of my like outlet as a professional photographer. I just wanted an art project, but I was also hiding, like I was doing series where I was hiding a lot of like Easter eggs and facts about like space flight, you know, and especially like space flight history. And I just fell in love with it. I went from like,

99.779 - 115.795 Tim Dodd

I like space and, you know, I grew up with like the Lego space shuttle and like a space shuttle poster on the wall kind of thing, but was way more into like cars and jets and music and whatever, you know, not necessarily like a space kid. You know, I was never like my goal in life is going to I'm going to go to space, you know, like not like that.

116.275 - 136.146 Tim Dodd

But all of a sudden, like during that, like 2013, 14 process, I just fell in love with the whole thing just by doing the art project and also watching at the time, like that's when SpaceX was trying to land their Falcon 9 booster for the first time. So I just started like watching some of that stuff and I was like, this is awesome. Like why, how can I learn more about this?

Chapter 2: How did Tim Dodd become involved in space exploration?

136.186 - 155.538 Tim Dodd

And I was just, you know, going over like on Reddit all the time and I was reading all the blogs and watching every, like everything I could absorb and there wasn't a lot out there. And I'm like, I don't know. Why don't I just make videos about this stuff? Cause it's really exciting. And like, I feel like there's a lot of questions that I'm seeing asked often that I'm not getting good answers to.

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156.601 - 165.908 Tim Dodd

So I just started making videos about how rockets work and, um, That just pretty quickly. So you're self-taught? You just kind of like learned all this stuff on your own? Yeah. Yeah.

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166.81 - 180.676 Tim Dodd

Yep. And it just kind of kept going, started going to rocket launches, you know, out here at the Cape over here in Florida and at Vandenberg. And then SpaceX started doing a lot of stuff at Starbase, Texas, which is like very southern tip of Texas down by Brownsville. in 2019.

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180.736 - 198.293 Tim Dodd

And I started covering all that stuff originally from a guy's rooftop, like from two and a half miles away during some of their first test flights. And then I started, I mean, I've been out there for pretty much every single launch out there as well with their Starship vehicle and things like that too. So. And you're based in Iowa. Based in Iowa. Yep. But spent a lot of time in Texas.

198.453 - 207.741 Tim Dodd

Texas is kind of home too. And, and I'm just, yeah, wherever, wherever the rockets take me. Rocket chaser, man. Yeah. That's wild, dude.

208.222 - 215.933 Danny Jones

So I, I, At what point did you decide to make that film addressing the whole moon landing thing?

216.082 - 219.386 Tim Dodd

It was because of the Joe Rogan. Oh, was it?

219.706 - 220.607 Danny Jones

Oh, wow.

Chapter 3: What are the key arguments regarding the moon landing debate?

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970.992 - 976.54 Danny Jones

For these new missions to go up there, apparently we're supposed to orbit the moon again like next month, right?

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976.672 - 983.74 Tim Dodd

We're about two weeks away. Two weeks? Yeah. As early as February 6th. Okay. Steve found the Von Braun video. Is this the one?

983.78 - 984.4 Danny Jones

Does it say the year?

986.903 - 989.146 Unknown

This is it. Okay. This is one that Bart sent me.

990.687 - 993.13 Danny Jones

Okay. You can actually find it on YouTube and it says the year.

993.47 - 996.814 Tim Dodd

I found it on YouTube before. Or you can go to subrell.com.

Chapter 4: What are the challenges of refueling rockets for space missions?

5122.29 - 5122.61 Tim Dodd

I mean, it's.

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5122.63 - 5127.355 Danny Jones

Yeah. It's incredible. It's crazy. It's crazy. The photos, the still photos are enormous.

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5127.595 - 5140.135 Tim Dodd

Yes. Especially that the one website that I, it was a university of Arizona scan. all the original 70 millimeter film. I mean, yeah, each of those, it's like a hundred or it's, it's multiple gigs worth of imagery.

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Chapter 5: How is NASA's new administrator influencing space exploration?

5140.155 - 5161.75 Tim Dodd

There are massive files and they are still to this day, just stunning from that Hasselblad camera. It's like art, but I really want, so there's a new NASA administrator named Jared Isaacman. Uh, I'll kind of say he's a friend of mine. Definitely, I've met him a handful of time. Flown in his jets three times, in his Alpha Jet and his MiG. Really? He's got a MiG?

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5161.97 - 5169.879 Tim Dodd

Dude, he used to own the world's largest private air force, Drakken International. They basically cross-trained against US military.

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Chapter 6: What role does black budget propulsion technology play in space travel?

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It was a cheaper way instead of the Army or Navy or Air Force training against their own red teams. A private air force. He basically was like, hey, I can do this for a tenth the cost. I can just buy MiGs and do this for a 10th the cost. That's actually how he kind of became a billionaire was through creating Drakken and counter-training against US military forces.

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5190.224 - 5204.306 Tim Dodd

And then he sold that and started Shift 4 Payment Company. So if you ever see the Shift 4, little like, you know, you're paying with your watch or whatever, you know, little terminals, like next time you're at like a, on like a 7-Eleven or at a state, they're in a lot of stadiums for payment, a little point of sale thing.

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5205.107 - 5227.183 Tim Dodd

Just look, if it says shift four, that's the current NASA administrators previous company, too. So. Oh, wow. So he became a billionaire, started buying flights from SpaceX. He was the first private astronaut flights. He's done two orbital missions with space with SpaceX. So he bought, Inspiration4 was the first all-private civilian mission that was an orbital mission.

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So not just like a little hop for four minutes, they were up there for three full days and flying inside a SpaceX Dragon capsule. They removed the docking port because they weren't docking with the International Space Station, put this beautiful window, a cupola window, like the size of the diameter of this table that they could look out and it's just stunning. Some of the coolest images.

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5245.71 - 5264.099 Tim Dodd

He paid for that and then developed that program himself. Then after that, he kind of caught the bug and he started a new program called Polaris. And he said, the first one we want to do is we actually want to do the first commercial spacewalk. And SpaceX had never done a spacewalk. So this required developing new spacesuits.

5264.62 - 5284.914 Tim Dodd

They would open up the Dragon capsule's hatch, depressurize the entire vehicle. So all four astronauts inside the Dragon capsule were sitting there in the vacuum of space. Only two of them ever poked their heads up. And they were just doing a basic shakedown of movement of the spacesuit is very primitive compared to what's coming with SpaceX developing their own EVA suits.

5284.934 - 5301.32 Tim Dodd

They're called extravehicular activity suits. But he developed that whole program. It took him almost two years. So he's flown twice on orbital missions. He's the first person to ever do a commercial spacewalk. So he's the real deal. He's awesome. And there's a lot of things that I'm excited for in his administration.

5301.34 - 5323.27 Tim Dodd

But one of the things I want him to do is I would love for him to spearhead a better archive of all this old footage. I want every launch. I want you to be able to say, STS-107 space shuttle mission, show me everything NASA has in the highest quality. I think as the public- What better PR thing to do when more young people than ever think the moon thing was fake.

5323.25 - 5343.79 Tim Dodd

I know, like, please just give us all of this beautiful footage. And, you know, there's still, it's so disorganized. It's so disjointed. A lot of the stuff on NASA is still like this old, like rip from like 2004, like 180P, you know, like, or not even 180, like 120P, like horrible resolution. And you're just like, can we please get a modern, you know, modern bit rates, modern,

Chapter 7: What new technologies are enabling satellite construction today?

9732.701 - 9753.054 Tim Dodd

Like maybe one company had their own in-house built in star tracker and KU band antenna. And, you know, GPS monitor, whatever, whatever things they would have. And they would kind of pull from their own inventory that they built. But now it's like, you don't have to do that anymore. You can build a satellite. Mark Rober launched a satellite last January called sat Gus.

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9753.074 - 9773.259 Tim Dodd

It was a selfie set, literally selfie sat. You can literally upload your photo and it will take a picture. It'll put your photo on a screen. And then on that screen, it has a camera that takes a picture of the screen so you can see yourself in space. Oh my God, dude. I mean, I know that sounds silly and I know it sounds kind of like frivolous and stuff.

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9773.379 - 9775.161 Danny Jones

That's the decline of civilization.

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9775.181 - 9791.078 Tim Dodd

I actually think it's incredible. Cause if you pause on it for a second and think about how many kids now, he has a huge audience for kids. Really? Oh, it's massive. Mark what? Mark Rober, the 10th, like top 10 biggest YouTubers. I think he has like a hundred million subscribers or something. Whoa. He's worth 50 million. He's way up there.

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9791.66 - 9813.842 Tim Dodd

You know, he's, he's one of the top, like, have you ever seen like those glitter bomb videos? He's a former NASA engineer. He's, he's up there. You've seen his stuff. Like at some point you had to have. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so the idea is now he has, you know, a hundred million kids saw this idea that like, Hey, you could build a satellite. You can upload. I can see myself in space.

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He did an amazing job of showing how they built the satellite, how it launched on a Falcon nine on a ride share mission. I think this could have done more to impact a young generation as silly as it is. And I mean, this is probably, you probably did this for less than $2 million, which is crazy.

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Like if you could have said 20 years ago that for $2 million, you can launch a, your own satellite, you had been laughed out of the room.

9840.299 - 9847.286 Danny Jones

So this is a photo of like a real photo of his selfie on a screen in outer space.

9847.446 - 9862.001 Tim Dodd

Right. And do you have to pay for this? Nope. The wait list now is like two years though or something. Oh my God. Because it can only operate during certain windows and has a downlink capability and all this stuff. But it's orbiting. It's in orbit. That's insane, dude.

Chapter 8: How does AI influence our perception of truth in media?

9862.361 - 9863.762 Unknown

Is he the owner of Crunch Labs?

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9864.023 - 9870.289 Tim Dodd

Yes. That's that little kid's box. Like, yeah. Oh, the one that the guy brought in the other day?

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9870.269 - 9880.003 Unknown

With his kid? Yeah, it was something like that. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. I think they have a kids show that they have the kids do those boxes or some type of building.

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9880.784 - 9885.171 Tim Dodd

Probably. He's a mega. He's huge.

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9886.553 - 9897.627 Danny Jones

How much attention did you pay to, how close of attention did you pay to the three-eye Atlas thing? The interstellar objects.

9897.647 - 9901.515 Tim Dodd

A decent amount. I saw a lot of, I mean, it was definitely making its rounds on social media, but.

9901.916 - 9902.257 Danny Jones

Yeah.

9902.277 - 9910.894 Tim Dodd

I mean, and it has some cool things. It's, we haven't tracked that many interstellar objects before. Yeah. Well, three, right? Yeah. I think this is, is that what it is? Three.

9910.994 - 9912.537 Danny Jones

I never realized it.

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