Tim Ferriss

No idea, right?

I mean, what's it like... what's it like... a few months before you're born?

I don't know.

I don't know.

What is that like?

Not the slightest clue.

But, you know, I've had conversations with people like the incredible biologist, also computer scientist,

You just talk to this guy, Michael Levin, out of TOTS, who is on the cutting edge of more things than I can even list off at this point.

But if you're looking at the development of a human from embryo, and I'm getting seemingly a little off track, but I don't think so.

the development of consciousness, which we kind of need to define, but let's just... let's just think of it as having an identity of me, an I, that is separate from the outside.

And maybe you're aware that you're aware, right?

Which might distinguish humans from other species in some way.

Okay.

Well, when does that happen?

Is there just a point in the process where it's like Frankenstein galvanizing and it's like lights on and suddenly?

Or does it actually exist at a cellular or subcellular level and it just scales up to what we experience, kind of like a beehive?

I tend to lean towards the latter, right?

And I think Michael Levin would lean towards the latter.

Like, very good scientists.

These aren't people running around at Esalen with tinfoil hats on.