Tim Ferriss

Might be something there.

I don't know.

I think there is.

So I would say... this is getting very close to the same territory, but you could interview

And you have to pick them very carefully.

But I'll give you an example.

Like a Greek Orthodox church singer who knows a lot about droning.

And... Or a musicologist who can speak too.

I could recommend one.

He's a wild card.

I'll say it off camera just so you can do your due diligence, but someone who, for instance, has knowledge of historic use cross-culturally of harmonics or overtones for religious experience and altered states.

That would be interesting.

Who could speak not just to the

the cultural context, but also to what we actually know from a musicology perspective, from potentially a neuroscientific perspective.

Very interesting.

There's some... Like, you do not need drugs to...

have some shockingly alarming altered states of consciousness.

Music has been one major tool in the toolkit for a long time.

So that could be interesting.

And then number three, who's lucky number three?