Tim Ferriss

You're not gonna find a shaman on Facebook for your brain surgery.

So, if your friend's like, bro, yeah, I got an awesome shaman who's coming in and, like, come sit this weekend, and it's like three days till the weekend, like, you would never do that if you were having your skull opened up, don't do it, in my opinion, without a lot of prep and consideration.

So you have a very healthy respect.

I have a very healthy respect because... And this isn't scaremongering, it's just a fact of the matter.

There's a lot of survivorship bias in the sense that in... You tend to, especially up until a few years ago, you hear about all the amazing transformations.

the people who get their psyche shattered and who have some type of persistent perceptual disorder, they're not necessarily showcasing that.

They're not sharing it.

They might be ashamed.

They might get criticized by friends who are

proselytizers for psychedelics who take their difficult experience as a risk to the quote-unquote movement, right?

There's a lot of forces at work and dynamics at play that make it challenging for people who have hard experiences to get the help they need.

But as someone who... I had a podcast in 2015 about Ibogaine.

And Ibogaine in Mexico specifically, and...

I've been around these things, certainly not as long as many.

Like, there are facilitators who have tens of thousands of sessions under their belts over 40, 50 years.

I mean, these people know infinitely more than I do.

And certainly, indigenous practitioners are coming through practices handed down from generation to generation for hundreds of thousands of years.

We have a beginning to scratch the surface there.

But I've had enough time, I would say, as someone who's taken it very seriously and

had researching and experiencing and experimenting around psychedelics as my unpaid full-time job for 10 years to say that once I had a platform, the number of emails that come over the transom from people who have been destabilized is not trivial, right?