Tim Heidecker

And I'm like, I don't know.

Like, I like this person.

That's why we reached out.

Like, let them make something and let's see what it is.

Well, mostly like the Rogan right-wing, Tony Hinchcliffe, the return to this kind of conservative...

I say return because I think there was a fair amount of that happening in the 80s when I was growing up.

There was, in general, in culture, there was kind of this conservatism that was in, you know, something like Top Gun or Andrew... I want to say Andrew Dice Clay, but, you know, he was really doing a character, but I think he did get kind of lost in the character there for a while and made, brought out the very worst in a lot of people.

I think there's a lot...

Of intersecting things, there is the rise of the podcast, which has become in a way like I think a lot of the big companies are like, we don't have to spend a lot of money on these things anymore.

We don't have to spend any money on these things anymore.

And chairs.

And that's the new talk show.

Yeah.

And some of it's really good, but it's also kind of like weirdly like and I'm saying that I was just did another podcast.

And I do have a podcast that I don't think about as a podcast.

I think about it as a TV show because it is on YouTube.

We've got five cameras.

We have musical guests.

We do bits.

Yeah.