Tim Miller

People should go read about that.

I want to get you on three more things rapid fire.

Just on abundant stuff, updates.

I had Morris Katz on yesterday's pod who is Zoran's media consultant.

And on the internet...

you would think that there is like a massive debate over your book between like left populists who, you know, think that you're in, in the thrall of rich billionaires.

And then you have like others who are more pro abundance who just think that, I don't know, Democrats should, should provide better services to people and that, and that the left critics are crazy at the elite level, though.

You have to feel pretty good that kind of across the Democratic spectrum, at least, people are at least taking elements of this.

And Zoran in particular, I'm wondering how you would kind of grade him on an abundance scale in the first couple months.

Well, it's kind of funny.

When I asked him why that happened, he was like, you know, when you're in an executive role, you still have to start making practical decisions.

And I was like, oh, great.

Sure, fine.

Yeah.

This won't be the clip.

Yeah, yeah.

It'll probably be me making fun of Marc Andreessen.

That's absolutely fine.

Because conflict sells.

Conflict sells.