Tim Miller

They don't know how to go back to their own.

You know, they're like, should I turn myself in and take the thousand dollars?

But I don't know what I would do if I go back to the country.

I mean, it's truly horrifying.

It's creating fear in those communities for sure, Tim, but it's also doing something else.

It is kind of denigrating the very voters who Donald Trump is supposed to be speaking for.

A couple of years ago, I was down at the border in Del Rio, Texas, after those images popped up on CNN of border agents on horseback who were chasing Haitian migrants and using the, you know, just was dehumanizing.

And I went there to bring support to those communities.

And I found

the American citizens at the border who did not agree with Joe Biden's immigration policies, who were collecting clothes, who were putting food together, and who were figuring out how to help take care of folks who they understood were coming here to try to live their best American lives.

in our states, even though they disagreed with Biden's policies, they were able to extend grace to other human beings who they knew were vulnerable and who had the best intentions for their families and who were not the criminals that Donald Trump depicts them as.

There's something denigrating and degrading about what Trump is saying about the humanity of his very voters, who I think have a tremendous more grace and soulfulness than their president has.

And we're going to have to figure this stuff out on the other side and appreciate Donald Trump is not the issue.

He's not the problem.

He is a symptom of a profound and pronounced lack of sympathy, lack of empathy that we have generally in our nation right now.

and an inability to talk to one another instead of shouting at each other on these ridiculous platforms that other people are benefiting from.

We got to figure out how we break through so that we can build durable, reasonable majorities for change.

in 2028 and beyond.

The cyclical thing is going to happen in the midterms, Tim.

I'm pretty confident that Hakeem Jeffries is going to be Speaker of the House because of the hard work that folks are going to do on the ground and the smart communication that we'll get and all the money that's going to be spent in politics.