Tim Miller

Like there was a lot of discussion about the way that they failed.

Well, yeah, I mean, but it actually, it worked.

I mean, the software did what it was supposed to do.

It could have been a lot worse because there was just, it was absolute chaos from everything that I was told.

Just enormous logistical challenge that the joint staff couldn't solve on its own.

So Palantir's technology did actually work well in that case, but

The problem was on the political side and just the fact that it was done in such haste.

That was the problem.

It's looked at as a disaster, but actually the number of people that were evacuated from Afghanistan in such a short time was kind of remarkable.

What about the claim that Palantir has spyware, spying?

There's one point that's analyzing data or looking at data.

It's another thing if it's

you know, watching.

Yeah.

It's also important to understand that it's not surveillance technology, but it does help organizations that deploy surveillance technology do their jobs more efficiently.

So law enforcement, intelligence services.

So Palantir is like one step removed.

You could say if we are seeing the emergence of a surveillance state, Palantir is an important part of that, but it is not surveillance technology in and of itself.

And again, it is important to recognize that Palantir doesn't oversee how clients use its technology.

It is not monitoring the way the CIA is using it.