Tim Miller

And now virtually everything has been wiped out.

We're literally starting from scratch.

So back to the ICE question of this time around.

Carr told you that if Palantir had stopped the work he does with ICE, he's worried that then other clients, people in the military, might think they're an unreliable partner.

I want to hear more about that conversation.

And, you know, you could imagine...

I mean, I made the joke about Benioff earlier in Salesforce, but Salesforce was on their platform to ICE, too, which I don't support.

You can imagine a situation where Trump is coming in.

They're claiming they're going after criminals.

This is in line with Palantir's mission.

They're like, hey, we're going to help you find these really bad guys, the drug traffickers, maybe even terrorists that have gotten into the country, and you can use our platform to do that.

You know, now after we have enough months here to see that like that isn't really the main goal and they're going after and hassling a lot of regular people and they're hassling a lot of citizens even or people that haven't committed any crimes.

I'm just wondering how he's thinking about their partnership now.

Well, I mean, he's given no indication that he's having any misgivings about it.

During the first Trump presidency, as I said, Palantir was very involved with ICE.

It was working with another part of ICE.

So it was only kind of tangentially involved with removal operations during the first Trump presidency.

But there was a lot of controversy surrounding its work with ICE.

Karp took it as a backhanded compliment because other tech companies were also working with ICE.

But Karp figured that he said anyway that part of the reason people were targeting Palantir back then was because they knew that the software was really good.