Tim Miller

I think that I neutralize them well enough for that.

So anyway, I just, it's more meta on the JD thing because then I want to get to the MFest because he is obviously trying to like shore up any potential vulnerabilities he might have, assuming Donald Trump steps aside and he wants to be, you know, the next in line to carry the banner for the MAGA movement.

And you could imagine a vice president in a different world thinking, well, okay, I need to focus on

you know, appealing to the more kind of non-political manosphere types, like a little bit less ideological, or I need to kind of shore up our issues with the Christian base.

You know, like there are all kinds of different factions.

The faction that JD seems the most concerned about shoring up is like the most conspiratorial, like MAGA faction.

nationalist element of the party.

He's got Tucker's kid on his staff.

He will not disavow Fuentes or disavow anyone that is making anti-Indian comments, despite his family.

Who he chooses to engage with online is generally usually going after

you know, more whatever establishment types and like being more defensive of, you know, kind of the fringe right.

And I think that tells us like where he assesses the juices in the party.

And I think that is like more important than where we assess.

I think that it seems to me like the juices with the, you know, whatever Candace Tucker wing of the party.

But I think it's pretty telling that the vice president agrees with that.

Let's go to the folks who are trying to straddle this divide and can keep it together at America Fest.

This is the end of the year Turning Point USA Fest.

I've been to several times.

The lineup is out.

They do a Coachella style lineup, you know, where they put the, you know, the top build people in the first row and then you get all the way down.