Tim Miller

Nobody in that vein is speaking at all.

You do have Russell Brandt, if you go down the list a little bit.

And a bunch of other characters that you'd be familiar with that I don't know that our listeners will, so we won't waste our time.

But I think that if you look at this, it's A, very easy to see what the trajectory of this thing is.

There's kind of this discussion of the crack-up.

It's kind of like there's still this fight over Israel that is happening.

And like Ben Shapiro is still there, like holding the ground on that side of the fight.

But like the rest of it is over.

The people that are that are running the grassroots movements of the right are nationalist populists in the vein of Tucker and Steve Bannon.

And like that's where things are going.

just on ted really quick i was joking with bill crystal about this i think it was last week about how like ted seems to be now positioning himself to kind of carry the banner for you know non-conspiratorial more traditionalist you know republican values and strong military and strong role for america in the world um

He went and had the fight with Tucker where he was supportive of the Iran strikes and Tucker was opposed.

There's a lot of videos went out about that.

I noticed yesterday Ted Cruz on his podcast, he's a competitor in the podcast space, did a kind of a tribute to Rob Reiner that was very much in contrast with the rhetoric we saw from Trump and his biggest allies online trashing Rob Reiner after he was murdered.

It does seem like

Cruz is going to try to kind of carry the banner of, I don't know what it would be, the type of person that would put bumpers on the most extreme elements of this and position himself as a counter to Vance and probably get a decent amount of more traditional Republican 70, 80-year-old stoners to fund that effort.

Yeah, it's interesting.

I think that effort is going to fail.

My assessment is that the MAGA base and Republican voters and the Trump coalition is not interested in foreign wars or entanglements at all.

I think that there is a obviously a vein of anti-Semitism.