Tim Miller

That's tough to fix.

You talked about the off ramps.

Now it's hard to find an off ramp because he's like a stubborn child.

And we've seen how these foreign leaders

and even Democratic leader Schumer has tried this at times, have done the, you know, thing where you coddle him and you rub his belly.

And, you know, if you're nice enough to him, then he'll back down for a little while and then he'll have a temper tantrum again.

Like we've all been through all this a bunch.

You do wonder the limits of that.

I understand the rationale for why Mark Ruda and Emmanuel Macron are sending him

you know, sweet lover's texts to try to like make him feel like he's a big boy.

But are we getting close to the edge of where that is valuable?

Gavin Newsom, your governor, you live in California, had a contrary view on how they should handle it.

I want to play that.

Kneepads for world leaders.

What do you think about that?

Interesting soundbite.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's obviously the right move domestically.

This is more in your wheelhouse now.

I actually don't know what your day job is these days.

Are you doing CEO advising anymore?