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Tim Miller

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The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

Kind of manipulating the oil markets off the record to reporters, not on the record.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

And so it does seem like their whole strategy, at least today, PR-wise, has been around trying to limit the spike.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

Yeah, I mean, I think there's two things to consider here, which is, you know, jawboning, PR, et cetera, these very sort of tactical things, talking about release of fuel from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, et cetera.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

There is nothing that can physically be done by this administration to really ameliorate the price of oil that can really counteract the complete or the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

There is no tool in the toolkit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

There are things at the margin that might be able to ease things a little bit.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

Saudi Arabia has a pipeline that goes to its west coast that can allow some oil to be routed around that area.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

There are things at the margin.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

Right past the Houthis in Yemen.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

That's right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

On the other side, that's what they have to deal with there.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

At the margins, there are things, but not really.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

But the other thing to consider is,

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

is that you talk to the oil experts and they say that if the market really took seriously that we are in a state of war and that the Strait of Hormuz is not going to be opened anytime soon, that actually the market prices would be much higher than they are today.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

That actually the price of a barrel of crude is still lower than the fundamentals would suggest because there is this belief that Trump is going to quote taco, that it can't be because this is truly, as one of our guests, Rory Johnston, put it.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

This is the type of scenario that people don't even take seriously as a scenario because it's too cataclysmic to contemplate.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

And so it's only almost discussed typically as a thought exercise.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

And so the question is, does the market even fully believe the reality that's happening now?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

So this jawboning, these PR attempts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jeffrey Goldberg and Joe Weisenthal: Pandora's Box Has Been Opened

It kind of seems like they don't.