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Getting a little bit of money here and there.

And the pay for play lobbying right now is at a level that really we haven't seen it.

I, it did, it got bad for a period, I guess in the nineties.

And then you go through this big reform, right at period.

And this is where like McCain and others, Russ Feingold are pushing for this type of reforms is a big, if for the old timers, you remember the Abramoff scandal, Abramoff scandal looks like small beans compared to what's happening right now.

But you did, you did have a lot of money sloshing around and they changed the rules and,

And in this Trump second term, because the government is not enforcing any public corruption rules, those rules are basically for naught now.

And the stories that I'm hearing and I think the stories that we'll end up hearing in the years to come when the books are written and stuff about.

Obviously, the Trump pardon list is the most obvious example of people just buying off pardons.

But on policy issues, people are going to Ballard, who is a big Trump lobbyist, and going to the other big lobbying firms and saying, hey, I want to hire you to help me lobby on this issue.

That's how things used to work.

And instead of them saying, sure, pay me $50,000 a month, they're saying, sure, pay me $50,000 a month.

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