Tim Murphy
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You send them to these asylums. The asylums, by the way, were set up originally to keep people out of homeless and from prisons, to be a more humane place to put people. So they started off with a good concept. But they became overpopulated, understaffed, dumping grounds. So the disability rights people said, hey, you can't just be putting people there. I get it.
You send them to these asylums. The asylums, by the way, were set up originally to keep people out of homeless and from prisons, to be a more humane place to put people. So they started off with a good concept. But they became overpopulated, understaffed, dumping grounds. So the disability rights people said, hey, you can't just be putting people there. I get it.
What happened is they went too far, far, far, far, too far. and assumed everybody was the same. That in itself is such a far-fetched concept in medicine. It's like we give everybody the same medicine in medical. You go see the doctor, take two aspirins, call me in the morning. That's about where we are. And some people you can talk into getting care, but some people you simply cannot.
What happened is they went too far, far, far, far, too far. and assumed everybody was the same. That in itself is such a far-fetched concept in medicine. It's like we give everybody the same medicine in medical. You go see the doctor, take two aspirins, call me in the morning. That's about where we are. And some people you can talk into getting care, but some people you simply cannot.
What happened is they went too far, far, far, far, too far. and assumed everybody was the same. That in itself is such a far-fetched concept in medicine. It's like we give everybody the same medicine in medical. You go see the doctor, take two aspirins, call me in the morning. That's about where we are. And some people you can talk into getting care, but some people you simply cannot.
And they can keep it together long enough, quite frankly, to see you and say, I'm fine. I'm not going to kill myself. I'm not going to harm myself. I'm really good. Because they know that they conceptualize, at least, if they're paranoid that something's wrong with you, then you're trying to talk them into this care and they don't want it.
And they can keep it together long enough, quite frankly, to see you and say, I'm fine. I'm not going to kill myself. I'm not going to harm myself. I'm really good. Because they know that they conceptualize, at least, if they're paranoid that something's wrong with you, then you're trying to talk them into this care and they don't want it.
And they can keep it together long enough, quite frankly, to see you and say, I'm fine. I'm not going to kill myself. I'm not going to harm myself. I'm really good. Because they know that they conceptualize, at least, if they're paranoid that something's wrong with you, then you're trying to talk them into this care and they don't want it.
They've also probably had a lot of bad experiences anyways where the police have been called and they're afraid of those things. So what happens is the disability rights groups oppose a lot of these things where we're trying to have assisted outpatient treatment where the judge could order using what's basically the black robe effect saying, no, you need to get care. It's compassionate.
They've also probably had a lot of bad experiences anyways where the police have been called and they're afraid of those things. So what happens is the disability rights groups oppose a lot of these things where we're trying to have assisted outpatient treatment where the judge could order using what's basically the black robe effect saying, no, you need to get care. It's compassionate.
They've also probably had a lot of bad experiences anyways where the police have been called and they're afraid of those things. So what happens is the disability rights groups oppose a lot of these things where we're trying to have assisted outpatient treatment where the judge could order using what's basically the black robe effect saying, no, you need to get care. It's compassionate.
But it sure is different from the police grabbing the person, handcuffing them, taking them to jail. They get in a fight with the prison guard. They're given another penalty. They get in a fight with somebody else. They get another penalty. Fight with somebody else. Before you know it, they're in solitary confinement. The worst possible thing you can do in a jail with someone there.
But it sure is different from the police grabbing the person, handcuffing them, taking them to jail. They get in a fight with the prison guard. They're given another penalty. They get in a fight with somebody else. They get another penalty. Fight with somebody else. Before you know it, they're in solitary confinement. The worst possible thing you can do in a jail with someone there.
But it sure is different from the police grabbing the person, handcuffing them, taking them to jail. They get in a fight with the prison guard. They're given another penalty. They get in a fight with somebody else. They get another penalty. Fight with somebody else. Before you know it, they're in solitary confinement. The worst possible thing you can do in a jail with someone there.
Jail is not a place to treat schizophrenia. It never was. And eight out of 10 people in the jails get no treatment for that. So, and what is about 40% of people in prison have a serious mental illness. About 90% have something. And among the homeless, the numbers are similar too.
Jail is not a place to treat schizophrenia. It never was. And eight out of 10 people in the jails get no treatment for that. So, and what is about 40% of people in prison have a serious mental illness. About 90% have something. And among the homeless, the numbers are similar too.
Jail is not a place to treat schizophrenia. It never was. And eight out of 10 people in the jails get no treatment for that. So, and what is about 40% of people in prison have a serious mental illness. About 90% have something. And among the homeless, the numbers are similar too.
So what has happened in America is as we close these hospitals down from 550,000 in the 1950s to about 38,000 today, we provided nothing else for them in terms of having enough hospital beds. In terms of assisted outpatient treatment, there's people who oppose having a judge say, no, you've got to go in the hospital, you've got to send your medication. And we still have a shortage.
So what has happened in America is as we close these hospitals down from 550,000 in the 1950s to about 38,000 today, we provided nothing else for them in terms of having enough hospital beds. In terms of assisted outpatient treatment, there's people who oppose having a judge say, no, you've got to go in the hospital, you've got to send your medication. And we still have a shortage.
So what has happened in America is as we close these hospitals down from 550,000 in the 1950s to about 38,000 today, we provided nothing else for them in terms of having enough hospital beds. In terms of assisted outpatient treatment, there's people who oppose having a judge say, no, you've got to go in the hospital, you've got to send your medication. And we still have a shortage.