Tim Murphy
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And we also have people who just do not engage families. HIPAA laws are extremely important to protect someone, but they have gone too far in the sense that doctors are tied up and not being able to communicate with families when they know what's going on. I'll give you an example. Let's say a young woman, maybe in her early 20s, has a suicide threat. She's taken to the hospital.
And we also have people who just do not engage families. HIPAA laws are extremely important to protect someone, but they have gone too far in the sense that doctors are tied up and not being able to communicate with families when they know what's going on. I'll give you an example. Let's say a young woman, maybe in her early 20s, has a suicide threat. She's taken to the hospital.
And we also have people who just do not engage families. HIPAA laws are extremely important to protect someone, but they have gone too far in the sense that doctors are tied up and not being able to communicate with families when they know what's going on. I'll give you an example. Let's say a young woman, maybe in her early 20s, has a suicide threat. She's taken to the hospital.
Two in the morning, she's able to tell the doctors, look, I'm not going to kill myself, really. I was just kidding about that. And the doctor's thinking, well, we don't have a bed. We don't have a place to put. We don't have a psych ward. What are we going to do? We'll trust her to go on the street and say, well, can we call someone to help you out?
Two in the morning, she's able to tell the doctors, look, I'm not going to kill myself, really. I was just kidding about that. And the doctor's thinking, well, we don't have a bed. We don't have a place to put. We don't have a psych ward. What are we going to do? We'll trust her to go on the street and say, well, can we call someone to help you out?
Two in the morning, she's able to tell the doctors, look, I'm not going to kill myself, really. I was just kidding about that. And the doctor's thinking, well, we don't have a bed. We don't have a place to put. We don't have a psych ward. What are we going to do? We'll trust her to go on the street and say, well, can we call someone to help you out?
And if she says, don't call my parents because I don't get along with them, then that's it. They literally open the hospital doors and say, go on, find a ride home, do something. But what if the doctors know the family? What if the doctors say, Mary, I know your folks. Come on, we're all in the same community. Let me call them. They'll get your ride. Well, under HIPAA laws, you can't do that.
And if she says, don't call my parents because I don't get along with them, then that's it. They literally open the hospital doors and say, go on, find a ride home, do something. But what if the doctors know the family? What if the doctors say, Mary, I know your folks. Come on, we're all in the same community. Let me call them. They'll get your ride. Well, under HIPAA laws, you can't do that.
And if she says, don't call my parents because I don't get along with them, then that's it. They literally open the hospital doors and say, go on, find a ride home, do something. But what if the doctors know the family? What if the doctors say, Mary, I know your folks. Come on, we're all in the same community. Let me call them. They'll get your ride. Well, under HIPAA laws, you can't do that.
And also under HIPAA laws, when you know someone is in the throes of deep psychosis and they're in crisis and they're fighting and they don't want help, if the doctors could call the family and say, we need some background history on this. Can you give us more background? And find out, oh, this person's had multiple times before. They're prescribed this medication. They don't want to take it.
And also under HIPAA laws, when you know someone is in the throes of deep psychosis and they're in crisis and they're fighting and they don't want help, if the doctors could call the family and say, we need some background history on this. Can you give us more background? And find out, oh, this person's had multiple times before. They're prescribed this medication. They don't want to take it.
And also under HIPAA laws, when you know someone is in the throes of deep psychosis and they're in crisis and they're fighting and they don't want help, if the doctors could call the family and say, we need some background history on this. Can you give us more background? And find out, oh, this person's had multiple times before. They're prescribed this medication. They don't want to take it.
Whatever else goes with that, it's important to be able to have that information too.
Whatever else goes with that, it's important to be able to have that information too.
Whatever else goes with that, it's important to be able to have that information too.
Well, that also is something that runs into a barrier. And a lot of doctors operate at this idea that, well, the confidentiality of sacrosanct, I won't do that. You know what? But they don't always do that. For example, if someone has Alzheimer's and is wandering the streets in the snow, it's two in the morning. And grandma's out there in her bare feet.
Well, that also is something that runs into a barrier. And a lot of doctors operate at this idea that, well, the confidentiality of sacrosanct, I won't do that. You know what? But they don't always do that. For example, if someone has Alzheimer's and is wandering the streets in the snow, it's two in the morning. And grandma's out there in her bare feet.
Well, that also is something that runs into a barrier. And a lot of doctors operate at this idea that, well, the confidentiality of sacrosanct, I won't do that. You know what? But they don't always do that. For example, if someone has Alzheimer's and is wandering the streets in the snow, it's two in the morning. And grandma's out there in her bare feet.
They don't say, let's let her go because she doesn't want to be picked up and she thinks she's on her way to second grade. They say, let's call the family. Let's take care of this. Well, quite frankly, that is a personal anosognosia. And someone else who we ought to put in the same category of many people with schizophrenia in a crisis to say, we need to get this person help.
They don't say, let's let her go because she doesn't want to be picked up and she thinks she's on her way to second grade. They say, let's call the family. Let's take care of this. Well, quite frankly, that is a personal anosognosia. And someone else who we ought to put in the same category of many people with schizophrenia in a crisis to say, we need to get this person help.